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2 Peter 3:6, “By which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished.” – HNV

Many questions come from “the world that then was” between science, religion and geological history. As we hear from Archeologist’s their hypothesis related to things they find in the geological record under the ground. As we look into what science tries to figure out in relations to life, creation and evolution (if there be such a thing). As we look into religion whether Christian, Jewish or other religions and the study of comparative religions. There are topics we have explored here about the common theme’s in sun religions their misapplication in relation to Judeo-Christian belief. I’ve explored the ideas in relation to the Pre-Adamic and Gap theology, their relation to science, history and how we answers these questions and issues that come up as believers. We find things in our geological record like dinosaurs and see the remains of global cataclysms such as the ice age and the global food of Noah. The tales of angels cast to the earth and how these fallen angels have sought to set up many false religions about the worship and ideals behind their fall. How do we reconcile the bible with history whether it be fallen angels, dinosaurs or global cataclysms and how does this help us look at what G-d is and will do? Lets dig in.

In The Beginning: God Did not Create To Devastate!

Genesis 1:1-3 “In the beginning God created the heavens and the eretz. 2 Now the eretz was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep. God’s Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters. 3 God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light…”

G-d’s initial act of Creation was instantaneous, complete and perfect. Eretz is the Hebrew word for Earth, Dirt, Land or Planet. In verse one we see that G-d created the heavens and the earth. He “created” the Heavens as we know them or what Paul called the “Third” heavens. The alternate dimension we know as Heaven the abode of G-d and the angels. Its clear the word G-d “Created” is used as opposed to the “passive / active” statement “let there be” which is more a statement of allowance that, say for example G-d shook the earth, restrained the light and caused a global ice age, then G-d allowed the light to return saying “let there be light.” Yes, G-d could just say “let there be light” and poof a light appears. Yet we need to look to the text and let scripture interpret scripture. As I will show you there is scriptural evidence that if not overlooked supports a right view of geologic history and supported by young earth proponents and at times does find common support from the common elements found in the many religions of the early people of ancient earth. This is not to say that the doctrines of demons that fallen angels passed to mankind through channeling and worship of creation, creatures and sun-astrology-worship is right, it is not. The elements of a world that existed in the world that then was that included dinosaurs or what some ancient people called feathered serpents or dragons. You find the common theme of Dragons and Feathered serpents. It been discovered that dinosaur bones have much in common with birds. So it’s very possible that dinosaurs where feathered, there where land dinosaurs, ocean dinosaurs and flying dinosaurs. Dinosaur tales include flying serpents or dragons that may have been Pterodactyls or other Dinosaurs or Dragons that are common in many myths. You have giant dinosaurs that fit the description of the Behemoth that G-d talks to Job about stating he has a tail “the size of a cedar tree” and legs the size of tree’s which may have been similar to a Apatosaurus or the Brachiosaurus. Leviathan is a sea dinosaur, serpent or dragon which may have been a Pliosaur is the ancestor of the modern Aligator or Crocodile or the Megaladon which is the ancestor of the modern Great White Shark. Iguanadon and Komodo dragons are what some speculate the source of where many dragon myths come from though this could have included all dinosaurs. Dinosaurs have been connected to birds and reptiles, more commonly reptiles. Its obvious after the extinction of dinosaurs that reptiles replaced them as creatures who slithered on their bellies. As the serpent in the garden was cursed to slither on his belly. I believe this is why dinosaurs ceased to exist as we know them and reptiles have taken their place.

Genesis 1:1 “First Elohim created, shaped, and formed the heavens to be lofty, the abode of the stars, and the visible universe and the whole earth, the land, ground, and surface of the earth.” – Direct Hebrew To English Translation

If you look at the text of scripture it wasn’t til day one that G-d Himself released light saying “let there be light” which is a passive statement not a directly active statement like “In the beginning G-d created.” We also see that G-d didn’t create the two luminaries the Sun, the Moon and the stars on day four. We know the universe, planets, solar systems, galaxies as we now know and see them when  we look up at the stars.

Genesis 1:2 “The whole earth came to exist as a chaotic formless wasteland and abyss, which was empty and void; darkness upon the presence of the deep abysses of sea. Ruach HaKodesh of Elohim was moving gently throughout the presence of the waters.” – Direct Hebrew To English Translation

How did the earth become or came to exist as a chaotic formless wasteland and abyss? Is this how G-d created it? How did this come to be? This is the question that comes to mind when reading this. That question is what we are going to explore by looking into the text of scriptures. The Holy Spirit was moving gently throughout the presence or face of the waters. This is interesting as the Holy Spirit it gently restoring something that seems to have been destroyed in a powerful cataclysm.

Isaiah 45:18 For thus says the LORD who created the heavens, the God who formed the eretz and made it, who established it and didn’t create it a waste (formless), who formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is no one else.

Wait! G-d didn’t make the earth a “waste” which is the same Hebrew word translated “formless” in Genesis chapter one verse two. How can this be? If G-d who created the heavens in Genesis chapter one verse one and the earth, who also didn’t create it a formless wasteland? Lets stop and think about what the text is actually saying in verse one G-d states He created the “Heavens” and the “Earth” and then verse two is says “it’s formless and void” or an “empty” “wasteland” which is another right interpretation of the words used in that passage. An empty formless, void and wasteland doesn’t sound like a pretty place or something that a G-d of order would make. G-d doesn’t create chaos, he creates order as seen in the 6 literal days of recreation or restoration. What happened that G-d would destroy the earth. As we see in the case of Noah, Babel and S’dom–G’morah that there’s must be a great rebellion for there to be a destruction or cataclysm. G-d doesn’t desire to destroy the beautiful things He created. What would cause Him to have the need to do this? As we look at the cases of Noah and S’dom that Angels sought to have relations with me and vice versa. Which is an abomination. “As in the days of Noah” so shall it be in the last days (Matt 24:37). With the Tower of Babel men sought to be like G-d to reach to His stature, the same as the fall of Adam and Eve. Fallen angels speaking through the serpent, dragon or the end of Dinosaur genetics line to tempt them to be like “elohims” to “know” “good” and “evil.” They already knew the greatest good namely “G-d” they didn’t know what the fallen angels or “elohim’s” knew, they didn’t have the carnal knowledge, gnosis or evil genius of Lucifer and the fallen angels. If G-d didn’t create the earth without form and void, how did it come to be so? Lets dig in and see.

Jeremiah 4:23-26 I saw the eretz, and, behold, it was waste and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. 24 I saw the mountains, and, behold, they trembled, and all the hills moved back and forth. 25 I saw, and, behold, there was no man, and all the birds of the sky were fled. 26 I saw, and, behold, the fruitful field was a wilderness, and all the cities of it were broken down at the presence of the LORD, [and] before his fierce anger.

Throughout the Word of G-d we hear echo’s of the time of the “world that then was.” G-d refers to Lucifer being cast down in the past tense, speaks of judgments and say were you there. Of course Job wasn’t there when G-d destroyed or created. G-d in allowing Job to be tested declares things to Job that he did not know before. Throughout the prophets we here echo’s of G-d referring to events that people did not know about and weren’t there for. If there is no way that the gospels could have recorded all the Yeshua did then even more so in creation. We should seek out to know G-ds Word, to understand the work of His hands. So what was this that happened that caused the earth that G-d did not make waste and voice that became waste and void. Jeremiah says there was no light, the mountains trembled, the hill shook and this was in a time that there was “no man.” This is speaking of a time before man that then was but now isn’t. A time and age that doesn’t exist anymore. It speaks of a time when there we’re cities and no man. If you study the journals of Archaeologist they would show you the age’s of earth the different types of Hominids and the ages they lived in. Should we reject the Archaeological evidence outright, to dismiss it without consideration. If we find traces of truth that can be found to resonate in scripture. What would happen to the earth is G-d sealed up the stars? It would freeze. So this is speaking of a time when G-d shut out the lights in the sky, crushed the earth, shook the ground and laid waste to creation. Why would he do this? Lets continue to dig in. Who were these men, these giants, these fallen angels who existed and built many of the monolithic structure that predate antiquity? They found a pyramid under water off the shores of China that they dated to about 13,000 years old. If the earth is only 5,771 years old from Adam to now then how is their evidence of a world that existed before? There is proof for a young earth the evidence ranges from 13,000 to 20,000 years old. There are those who speculate earth is older. There is evidence that supports a young earth but it may not be as young as some supposed. I do believe that Genesis 1’s says do point to literal days, “evening and sunrise” point to one literal day. However it says “let there be” light, etcetera because G-d was allowing back in what He had destroyed in cataclysm. I point this out to allow you to see what religious men haven’t looked at, seek to avoid and don’t teach or speak about. Its time we look for real answers, answers that work and include faith. The beginning of wisdom is fear of the L-rd, without it all discussion is foolishness. A fool says there is no G-d, a mad man tells others. So lets keep the fear and reverence of G-d in our heart and see to learn His wisdom and know His ways.

Isaiah 24:1-4 Behold, the LORD makes the eretz empty, and makes it waste, and turns it upside down, and scatters abroad the inhabitants of it. 2 It shall be, as with the people, so with the Kohen; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the creditor, so with the debtor; as with the taker of interest, so with the giver of interest to him. 3 The eretz shall be utterly emptied, and utterly laid waste; for the LORD has spoken this word. 4 The eretz mourns and fades away, the world languishes and fades away, the lofty people of the eretz do languish.

Again we see G-d point to a time when He made the earth “empty” or “void” again this uses the same word as Genesis 1:2 so this is referring to that time. It also points to a time when G-d laid the world “waste” this refers to the empty, void, wasteland in verse 2 of Genesis. Lucifer is called a priest of the most high, there was a time when he was a leader or worship and then he lead a rebellion. This passage in Isaiah says that as with the people so with the priest. This is a passage speaking of a time when the earth was laid empty and waste. The world languished and faded away. This is a time before Isaiah whether it refers to the flood of Noah or the Ice Age of the Luciferian rebellion we must study. The flood cleansed the earth, it speaks of G-d cleansing the earth of its inhabitants but doesn’t refer to shutting out light or destroying mountains so it would seem these passage point to the same catastrophe that include, hiding the stars (light), shaking the earth, and creating a empty (void) wasteland. If you let scripture interpret scripture then you will see scripture explains many things and it seems in plain English that if you don’t listen to the voice of G-d, you can be like those who hear but don’t hear who see but don’t see. We must read to know G-ds Word with eyes and ears open, to know and understand. To have an ear that hears.

Proverbs 8:22-31 “The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his work, Before his deeds of old. 23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, Before the eretz existed. 24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth, When there were no springs abounding with water. 25 Before the mountains were settled in place, Before the hills, I was brought forth; 26 While as yet he had not made the eretz, nor the fields, Nor the beginning of the dust of the world. 27 When he established the heavens, I was there; When he set a circle on the surface of the deep, 28 When he established the clouds above, When the springs of the deep became strong, 29 When he gave to the sea its boundary, That the waters should not violate his mitzvah, When he marked out the foundations of the eretz; 30 Then I was the craftsman by his side. I was a delight day by day, Always rejoicing before him, 31 Rejoicing in his whole world. My delight was with the sons of men.

Who is this that was with the L-rd in the beginning ? Many would say this is speaking about Yeshua, the Son or the Angels, or even Lucifer. The word of G-d throughout its pages points to explain stories that may have been a few verse. G-d gives context and meaning, He goes back to explain and explore things in deeper depth. You have to be willing to search and see. This passage speaks of a time when G-ds delight was with the “sons of men” which is a unique distinction in light of the understanding of the “sons of elohim,” the B’nei Elohim seen before the flood of Noah. It is crucial to study the original language of the bible, to pull out concordances and dictionaries, to get to know the meaning and intent of words laid out in scripture. We can’t just accept them at face value. There is so much more deep and rich meaning in G-ds Word. I’ve pointed out the flaws in some of the modern translators reliance on Catholic sources or connections to universalism and free masonry. We must be aware or the enemies vices and attempts to pervert G-ds Word.

“Elohim spoke, “Come to existence light:” there was light. Elohim saw, perceived and considered the light, that it was good: Elohim separated light from darkness. Elohim proclaimed the light “Day,” darkness He called “Protective Shadow.” It was sunset, it was day break, one time.”

We see here that G-d is saying “let there be light” where did the light go. As we’ve seen G-d sealed up the light of the stars. The light from stars traveling in light years would not show us all the stars in the sky in such a short period of time. There are universal laws that we must learn to understand. Newton who wrote many of the laws of nature he observed believed the Laws of Nature clearly refuted the ideas of the “theory of evolution.” The Laws of Inertia, Conservation of Matter, Thermodynamics and Scientific Method point clearly to a creator. G-d created the protective shadow of night and the light of day. Its was dark before it was light, G-d made night holy before sanctifying day. If we we’re to stay in the sun with no break, we would get cancer more rapidly, we would have blisters and would die from lack of sleep. The darkness of night provides protection from the suns rays and provides cover to sleep under. Midnight is not the devils hour. Actually midnight doesn’t have a place in kingdom economy, midnight is a creation of people who sought to worship the devil under cover of darkness. G-d created darkness and light. They both have a purpose. Using the protective shadow of night to evil was an invention of fallen beings seeking to hide in shadows from the Almighty, who see’s all in light and darkness. Why did G-d say something passive like “let there be light” no “I created light?” This is interesting to consider.

Elohim spoke, “Come to existence firmament (a vault of heaven supporting waters above) in the midst of the water, let it be a separation between the water and water.” Elohim made the firmament, separating the water that which under the solid supporting water and the water that which above the firmament: after that Elohim proclaimed the firmament “Sky.” It was sunset, it was day break, a second time.

We see that G-d created the sky, the atmosphere, the protective layer that keeps oxygen in and protects us from the suns harmful rays. G-d separated the waters. Did you know that “air” is a form of water or liquid? Air is a thinner liquid than water yet it is fluid and moves just like water. The is water below, above and in the middle. The liquid or firmament of the sky is of similar composition of the water below. The water below, the oceans and the water above, the sky, are thicker than the liquid oxygen in the middle. G-d created the complex biosphere of the Earth, He created plants that provide animals with Oxygen and animals that provide plants with Carbon Dioxide. G-d made the world symbiotic, self cleaning and self sustaining. He built complex organisms that rely upon each other for their existence. The complexity of creation points to a creator.

Elohim spoke, “Water under the sky be bound together unto one space, dry land appear.” After that Elohim proclaimed the dry land “Earth;” the collected mass of water he called “Sea.” Elohim saw, perceived and considered that it was good.

Here we see the gathering of land and water. Our planet is covered with more water than land. At this time the earth was one continent known as Pangaea or as some refer to it as “Atlantis.” This is the single continent that existed until about the time of the Tower of Babel its clear that G-d divided the tongue and languages of the people and the word says this is the time that G-d began to divide the land as well. This is a further division of the land from the land. The initial division is water and land later after Noah’s flood there is a division of lands, languages and peoples. This is how we have the common roots of many myths across continents whether via crossing land bridges during the time that G-d was dividing the land. There are things in scripture we need to see with mind unclouded by doctrines of men and demons. We should seek to know and understand the text as written in the original language.

This is the first part of a three part series on “The World That Then Was.” Feel free to comment and keep it locked here for more.

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