Job 40:15-24 “See now, behemot, which I made as well as you. He eats grass as an ox. 16 Look now, his strength is in his loins, His force is in the muscles of his belly. 17 He moves his tail like a cedar: The sinews of his thighs are knit together. 18 His bones are like tubes of brass. His limbs are like bars of iron. 19 He is the chief of the ways of God. He who made him gives him his sword. 20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, Where all the animals of the field do play. 21 He lies under the lotus trees, In the covert of the reed, and the marsh. 22 The lotuses cover him with their shade. The willows of the brook surround him. 23 Behold, if a river overflows, he doesn’t tremble. He is confident, though the Yarden swells even to his mouth. 24 Shall any take him when he is on the watch, Or pierce through his nose with a snare?
Who is this Behemoth that has a tail like a cedar tree and the mountains bring him food? This animal is definitely larger than any animal that we find at the zoo or on a safari. An animal with a tail the size of a cedar. There has been debate and speculation whether this was an elephant or dinosaur. I think the text makes it clear. A dinosaur has a tail the size of cedar not an elephant. This was most likely a Apatosaurus, Brachiosaurus or some similar dinosaur. Some say a Iguanodon and Komodo dragon but I doubt based on the description. He seems to be a large animal this isn’t afraid of floods in the Jordan river, if it overflows his shear size will keep him safe. This is a big dinosaur. There are Dinosaur’s in the bible. There are those that believe this is a story that was passed down from pre-Adamic man because its not believed that man and dinosaur lived together. There are others who believe man and dinosaur must have lived together and go to great length to prove it. I’ve written about the pre-Adamic age quite a few times here. According to the historical record it is safe to say that from Adam to now has been about 5771 years of homo-sapiens recorded history that lines up with the biblical text and archaeology. If you accept the gap theology, realizing Genesis gives three accounts of creation on in Verse 1, one in verses 3-28, and another in Genesis 2-3. And see that there are gap’s and passages of scripture that elude to a time before man about the “world that then was” which is the title of this series for a reason. I want us to look into the possibility and probability of the age before Adam. Many may call this Atlantis or ancient Thule or some other myth passed down from pagan religions who spoke with oracles for demon’s who passed on their version of the story where Yeshua said “And I saw the Adversary fall like lightning.” That’s a past tense statement and I saw, not and I will see. Its already done. Apparently before the Serpent can tempt eve into touching and eating the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The most likely hood is that some of the pre-adamic creation new Adonai’s judgment was coming and they created cities to survive underground in Turkey and south America. This is how the Egyptians and others belief that they received direct revelation from the ancient Atlanteans, along with the Hindu’s, Tibetians and Assyrians who believed in Ahura Mazda. If you study the history of most culture they hold a belief in Dragons, Dinosaurs, Giants, and Global Destruction. The same is found in the Tanakh Behemot and Livyatan are clearly dinosaurs. The Serpent-Dragon people who can speak through thought as opposed to using verbal communication.
Job 41:1-34 “Can you draw out Livyatan with a fishhook? Or press down his tongue with a cord? 2 Can you put a rope into his nose? Or pierce his jaw through with a hook? 3 Will he make many petitions to you? Or will he speak soft words to you? 4 Will he make a covenant with you, That you should take him for a servant forever? 5 Will you play with him as with a bird? Or will you bind him for your girls? 6 Will traders barter for him? Will they part him among the merchants? 7 Can you fill his skin with barbed irons, Or his head with fish-spears? 8 Lay your hand on him. Remember the battle, and do so no more. 9 Behold, the hope of him is in vain. Will not one be cast down even at the sight of him? 10 None is so fierce that he dare stir him up. Who then is he who can stand before me? 11 Who has first given to me, that I should repay him? Everything under the heavens is mine. 12 “I will not keep silence concerning his limbs, Nor his mighty strength, nor his goodly frame. 13 Who can strip off his outer garment? Who shall come within his jaws? 14 Who can open the doors of his face? Around his teeth is terror. 15 Strong scales are his pride, Shut up together with a close seal. 16 One is so near to another, That no air can come between them. 17 They are joined one to another; They stick together, so that they can’t be pulled apart. 18 His sneezing flashes forth light, His eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. 19 Out of his mouth go burning torches, Sparks of fire leap forth. 20 Out of his nostrils a smoke goes, As of a boiling pot over a fire of reeds. 21 His breath kindles coals. A flame goes forth from his mouth. 22 In his neck there is strength. Terror dances before him. 23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together. They are firm on him. They can’t be moved. 24 His heart is as firm as a stone, Yes, firm as the lower millstone. 25 When he raises himself up, the mighty are afraid. They retreat before his thrashing. 26 If one lay at him with the sword, it can’t avail; Nor the spear, the dart, nor the pointed shaft. 27 He counts iron as straw; And brass as rotten wood. 28 The arrow can’t make him flee. Sling stones are like chaff to him. 29 Clubs are counted as stubble. He laughs at the rushing of the javelin. 30 His undersides are like sharp potsherds, Leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge. 31 He makes the deep to boil like a pot. He makes the sea like a pot of ointment. 32 He makes a path to shine after him. One would think the deep had white hair. 33 On eretz there is not his equal, That is made without fear. 34 He sees everything that is high: He is king over all the sons of pride.”
Its obvious that the animal is gigantic and beyond the description of any animal that we can find at the zoo or on a safari. Some suggest Livyatan may have been a Pliosaur which is the ancestor of the modern Alligator or Crocodile or the Megaladon which is the ancestor of the modern Great White Shark. I doubt that Job ever saw a Livyatan or Behemot, yet Adonai wanted to challenge him on something that was common knowledge. Dinosaurs or Dragon’s existed with pre-Adamic mankind among the giant Nephillim and fallen angels in ancient “Thule,” “Atlantis” or whatever name you want to give it. Lets look a Leviathan.
Psalms 74:14 “You crushed the heads of Leviathan; You gave him as food for the creatures of the wilderness.” Psalms 104:26 “There the ships move along, And Leviathan, which You have formed to sport in it.” Isaiah 27:1 “In that day the LORD will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, With His fierce and great and mighty sword, Even Leviathan the twisted serpent; And He will kill the dragon who lives in the sea.“
Is Lucifer an incarnation of Leviathan or just one who spoke through a Leviathan “Serpent”? Here we see the connection to a serpent to a dragon. If you follow all the ancient tales of the early people of Eretz you will find that Dragons, Serpents, Giants and World Tree’s are common themes. The scriptures describe beautiful gems and jewels on his body if you match that with the tales of ancient and mythical dragons, which most likely are distorted views of ancient dinosaurs. There are dinosaurs/dragons that can fly, swim and walk. There are many types of dinosaurs. Many ceased to existed the only ones that seem to have made it to us are reptiles who slither on their belly but if you look at their ancestors they were giants that stood tall and were by no means small creatures who slither on their bellies. Even crocodiles and lizards slide along on their belly since their legs are on their sides. This is the curse they received for allowing Lucifer to speak through them. This is why in many ancient myth’s dragons/dinosaurs could talk. At least this is my take on the who dinosaur/dragon mythology.
Heylel-Lucifer, The Dragon
Isaiah 14:12-19 How you are fallen from heaven, Heylel, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, who laid the nations low! 13 You said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; and I will sit on the mountain of congregation, in the uttermost parts of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like Ha`Elyon. 15 Yet you shall be brought down to She’ol, to the uttermost parts of the pit. 16 Those who see you shall gaze at you, they shall consider you, [saying], “Is this the man who made the eretz to tremble, who shook kingdoms; 17 who made the world as a wilderness, and overthrew the cities of it; who didn’t let loose his prisoners to their home?” 18 All the kings of the nations, all of them, sleep in glory, everyone in his own house. 19 But you are cast forth away from your tomb like an abominable branch, clothed with the slain, who are thrust through with the sword, who go down to the stones of the pit; as a dead body trodden under foot.
We can see Heylel or Lucifer who thought he was the son of the morning or the morning star, the dog star, Sirius, the mythical power behind the Sun. If you follow occult lore Sirius is believe to be the true magnetic power behind the medieval use of alchemy and astrology to mystify and allude to magical power when outside of the presence of a demon (disembodied spirit of a fallen angel and pre-adamic creation) there is no mystical power. Understanding the magnetic fields created by sun, the magnetic fields of orbiting planets and moons, how they create tides and seasons, that do affect mood and behavior on a minor level. To be able to predict the effects before they happen without connecting the dots of the universal connection of all things. Lucifer has always tried to cast himself as above Yeshua, the son of G-d, he created religions in Babylon, Persia, India, Egypt, Rome and the Norse that exalted himself to the mystery power behind the Sun, focused man’s worship on the Sun (Horus-Helios-Hermes-Dagon-Ahura Mazda-Hercules-Thor-Seth-Tammuz-Mars-Avitar), the magnetic affects of the universe, and worshiped Mother Earth/Moon goddess (Aset-Isis-Queen of Heaven-Sin-Ishtar-Astarte-Allila-Allah-Eostre-Samiramis-Frey-Gaia-Lady Liberty-Venus) and Father Sky (Osiris-Dionysus-Bacchus-Baal-Maitreya-Moloch-Marduck-Beltrain-Nimrod-Odin-Boeddha-Jupiter). Lucifer having been one of the anointed Cherubim having been in heaven near Elohim’s throne knows the biblical G-dhead and has sought to manipulate it and place himself as the mystical deity behind all the Magi, magicians and pagan worship. Also the Dragon who is the The Anti-Christ (who may be a genetically modified clone possessed by the actual spirit of haShatan), The False Prophet (Who will probably be a women Oracle or haShatan, or the Harlot, the Queen of Heaven) and the Beast (the son of haShatan in a metaphorical sense, a hell spawn) are seen again in Revelation rising to fight us from within the earth. This ungodly trinity will seek to do what the false demonic trinities have been trying to prepare us for since the tower (Ziggurat) of Babel.
Ezekiel 28:12-19 Son of man, take up a lamentation over the king of Tzor, and tell him, Thus says the Lord GOD: You seal up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 You were in `Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering, the sardius, the pitdah, and the diamond, the bareket, the shoham, and the yashefay, the sappir, the yahalom, and the yahalom, and gold: the workmanship of your timbrels and of your pipes was in you; in the day that you were created they were prepared. 14 You were the anointed Keruv who covers: and I set you, [so that] you were on the holy mountain of God; you have walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you. 16 By the abundance of your traffic they filled the midst of you with violence, and you have sinned: therefore I have cast you as profane out of the mountain of God; and I have destroyed you, covering Keruv, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you have corrupted your wisdom by reason of your brightness: I have cast you to the ground; I have laid you before kings, that they may see you. 18 By the multitude of your iniquities, in the unrighteousness of your traffic, you have profaned your sanctuaries; therefore have I brought forth a fire from the midst of you; it has devoured you, and I have turned you to ashes on the eretz in the sight of all those who see you. 19 All those who know you among the peoples shall be astonished at you: you are become a terror, and you shall nevermore have any being.
Satan was in the Garden of Eden and is a Cherub who Covers who know spends his time uncovering our sins. Satan is described with gems, jewels and diamonds in his skin much like the tails of Dragons and Serpents in ancient earth myths about creation and the angels cast down from the skies. Due to the abundance of his traffic and the iniquity of trading his image for Elohim, he corrupted his beauty by the multitude of his iniquities. One sin wasn’t enough he had to go all in.Adonai brought fire from the midst of Halel-Lucifer and it devoured him and the abyss that Michael the Archeangel cast him into thus creating what we know as hell. Satan was a priest of God in the tabernacle of God his body was beautiful and He was in charge of 1/3 of heaven as Gabriel had another 1/3 and Michael had another 1/3, Revelation 12:4. (Ezekiel 28:11-19; Isaiah 14:12-14; Luke 10:18). The Archangels are Gods highest order of creation and God split the authority between the three. Lucifer as a worship leader in heaven directed worship to God and gave the glory to God. Lucifer saw himself and that he was beautiful, he became prideful and full of contempt, jealousy and hate and wanted what God had. He was able to deceive those under him into believing him, some of which were the actual pre-Adamic race. Because of Lucifer’s rebellion and inciting 1/3 of heaven to go with him. God cast Him down to the earth. This Pre-Adamic Cataclysm or Casting down of satan and his dark forces caused a devastating global cataclysm, and a supernatural vacuum, destroying all life on Earth this accounts for the vast fossil graveyard of dinosaurs everywhere. (Genesis 6:4; Ezekiel 28:11-19; Isaiah 14:12-14; Luke 10:18; Revelations 9:1-12; Jude 1:6; 2 Peter 2:4).
Matthew 12:43-45 But the unclean spirit, when he is gone out of the man, passes through waterless places, seeking rest, and doesn’t find it. 44 Then he says, ‘I will return into my house whence I came out,’ and when he has come back, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. 45 Then he goes, and takes with himself seven other spirits more evil than himself, and they enter in and dwell there. The last state of that man becomes worse than the first. Even so will it be also to this evil generation.”
The spiritual dimension around us the second heaven’s were Lucifer was cast is the invisible world around us in which the disembodies spirits of the pre-Adamic age dwell. When a demon is cast out of a person they roam around the invisible dimension seeking rest and warmth and only find it within another human body and in some exceptions within animals like the pigs Yeshua cast the demons into. We must be aware of this put on the armor of Adonai and seek to fulfill the great commission to drive out demons and make disciples. We must know we do not battle against flesh and blood but against the spiritual forces that seek to control people. We must divide asunder soul and spirit, thoughts and intents, is a discerner of the thoughts of the heart and exposes those evil creatures with the D’var-Logo’s-Word of Adonai. We must go to war against the spiritual forces and love the people caught in the battle between the second and third heavens, the abode of Adonai Eloheinu.
2 Peter 3:3-8 knowing this first, that in the last days mockers will come, walking after their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of his coming?” For, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an eretz formed out of water and amid water, by the word of God; 6 by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished. 7 But the heavens that now are, and the eretz, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. 8 But don’t forget this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
This discussion of the world that then was and is declared to continue as they have been since the start of creation, that the world that then was perished in verse 6 of 2 Peter. The world that perished in the flood is one of the catastrophes due to fallen angels who survived the ice age in underground cities in Turkey and South America. This is how Cain was able to find a spouse who wasn’t a sibling. This is the world that I am trying to inform you about. These disembodied fallen angels that we know as demons who manifest as spirits, ghosts and “aliens” are those who are stored up for fire, reserved for judgment. This connection to one day and a thousand years is essential to understanding the ages of the earth. For example the Ice Age begun about 13,000 BCE or as I say probably around 12, 772 to be exact and we are nearing the end of the proceeding week, and the beginning of the millennial rest for the week follow haShatan’s rebellion that ended in the Ice Age. The age that ended in 12,772, started around 19,772, the age that young earth theorist say the earth is 13,000 to 19,000 years old. The age of Lucifer-Halel’s reign was from around 20,000 years to around 13,000 when the ice age happened. From Adam til know we have experience the Flood of Noah and the division of languages and land at the Tower of Babel. The Sages says that the age of lawlessness was two thousand years, the age of the law was two thousand and the age of messiah is two thousand years, and this ends with the age of Millennial peace or shalom. This may be a new or unique perspective, the doctrine or gap theology has been taught for a long period of time and can be found in a few bible encyclopedia’s like the Scofield bible among others. Whether you accept that or not that explains, the ice age, the global flood, the age of the law, the age of Messiah and the soon coming millennial reign. However this does not deal with whether there we’re any ages before the ice age, or flood. There are a couple obscure rabbi’s who believe the age of the earth may be much older than a mere 20,000. I believe that the Talmud states that there were 974 generations before Adam which depending on whether a generation is 40, 60 or a 100 years, or in the age of men who lives to be over 900 hundred years how long of a generation and how many years could that be at the least 38,960 and at max 97,400 according to the 40 to 100 generations. That would make the early almost 100,000 years old. Rabbi Bahya ben Asher believed the earth to be billions of years old based on his Kabbalistic calculations. I don’t necessarily agree with either of those views. I do believe the age of the earth is more likely under 20,000 years or at least the age man is less that 6,000 years, and pre adamite creation such as Lucifer-Halel and the Dinosaur-Dragon-Serpents of before the Ice Age existed with in 13,000 to 18,000 years ago is completely compatible with the bible. When you read Genesis you see three creation accounts, one in Genesis 1:1 that is complete creation of the Universe, another after a devastation eluded to throughout the bible in Genesis 1:3-29 that is referred to a Replenishing the Earth, the same word used only one other time and that’s after Noah’s flood when Elohim again says “replenish the earth.” That is no coincidence. Think upon these things. We don’t have to try to find dinosaur feet print with human feet print in them to say man and dinosaur existed together. Maybe Cro-Magnon or Neanderthal man but not Homosapien. Adam was the first homosapien. Anyways I hope you find this blog interesting and challenging.
This is the second part of a three part series on “The World That Then Was.” Feel free to comment and keep it locked here for more.
- What Killed the Dinosaurs? The Mystery Continues to Deepen… (bigthink.com)
- Leviathan (revivalandreformation.wordpress.com)
- Review: DINOSAUR TRAIN “Dinosaur Big City” Screening Party (benspark.com)